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is sounding like a minister from the south. now he sounds more like bill clinton. he can get up there and say something like that knowing full well his vote was not in support of those people. this shows you, people will say is this the real obama or is he playing a role now as commanderrer in chief? >> greg: two points. they had mother jones discus discussing this. when the story about the haircut incident or bain capital comes up, they never say it came from a liberal blog or outlet. but this is coming up from the conservative areas because you didn't do your damn job. this is another point. this isn't a conservative nightmare. a liberal dream fulfillment. if you ask any of the obama supporters, they want the old obama. they want the fiery obama. to them, the modern obama is van halen with sammy maggar. they want van halen with roth. when he gets re-elected we'll see the old obama, fiery obama. they should be happy to see this. >> eric: this begs the question forget about the money, the man could stand on the podium and do that, point the finger and say where is your stafford money, knowing

to fix things. so he's not going to try and be bill clinton here, i feel your pain. but what he's going to try to do is say i'm focused on your concerns. >> can a debate like tonight's debate really change the direction of this campaign? >> i think it can accelerate or decrease momentum one way or another. and i went back and looked at 2004 for example when you had john kerry and george bush. in sort of late september bush was ahead of kerry by about seven points. after the first debate it was a two-point margin because john kerry did very well. then george w. bush came back and did better at the next debate. but he did narrow the gap after that first debate. and in a race that's as closes a this, wolf, that could make all the difference. >> very close in florida and virginia, for example and a debate tonight could impact the undecided voters. thanks, gloria. >> uh-huh. >>> you want to talk about the trial of the century, it could have happened if the raid in pakistan had unfolded differently. and a woman who came close to death in portland, maine's harbor can thank her lucky stars for

on the discussion about presidential leadership styles. jon huntsman used bill clinton's democratic convention speech as an example of what mitt romney should do during the first debate for mitt romney tonight. we will also hear from bill kristol and bart gordon. >> i am darrell west. i would like to welcome you to today's events on campaign of leadership. we are what testing today's events, so we would like to welcome those of you better watching through the internet. we also have c-span with us today. we will be live tweeting the event. vileader. during the question and answer time, we will take questions from the live audience, as well as the virtual audience. the question about leadership has been a big part of the 2012 election. this offers wind -- insight into leadership style and approach to management. the question is, how does the presidential campaign shed light on the leadership qualities. what does the campaign experience, as we have seen it so far indicate their approach to management and governance? today we have assembled an outstanding panel of speakers to help analyze the ques

think if president obama had inherited bill clinton's economy, a surplus. that wasn't the case. so i think the president needs to remind america where we were and where we have been and the accomplishments that we've made. as far as mitt romney is concerned, romney can go after president obama all he wants tonight. he's got some serious repair work to do after the 47% comment, because that was a real snapshot as to who he is. plus, his private sector experience has got a checkered past. he's an outsource iceoutsourcer. he's a guy who's gone to the bottom line who hasn't been good to middle class families. he can't put a number on how many jobs he's actually created. but we hear these testimonials more and more all the time because of the hardship the middle class has gone through because of the economic model he presented in the private sector. that is a huge target for the president tonight, and i think he'll exploit it. >> steve schmidt, from a republican perspective, looking at that plus 19 number that president obama has got on handling issue of the middle class, how does mitt ro

. bill clinton was impeached for lies. where is the accountability in this administration? own up to the fact we are at war with an evil force that will never be satisfied until we are all dead. this is not about political offices or expanded geopolitical borders. this is about the survival of our civilization. if this administration won't lead in the battle, then step aside and let someone do it who won't lie to us and endanger our children. [ applause ] on friday the director of national intelligence issued a statement. joining me is katherine hair aj. why this document on friday afternoon? >> you know when you've got bad news the place you put it, that is when we had with the statement. this is a person who is top intelligence officer in the united states government. i have the statement right here. what i believe it does it attempts to give the administration some cover for their initial comments and then concludes what we saw in libya wasn't terrorism. there is a problem here. when you read the statement is what you see is the administration assessments of libya went way beyo

and asleep. who do you want answering the phone. bill: that ad from hillary clinton questioning whether barack obama was ready to handle threats to our country. some are saying benghazi was the 3:00 a.m. call to the white house and barack obama flubbed it miserably. john bolton is here. >> i thought the article was outstanding. anybody who hasn't read it should get a copy of the "wall street journal" and take a look at it. he points to the obama administration ideology being at fault both before the attack and afterwards. that's important to understand. before the attack we clearly didn't suspect it was coming. that's due to an intelligence failure in the sense we looked for information and couldn't get it or if the ideological reason applied they didn't think we needed to ask for the information. al qaeda has been defeated, the war on terror is over, libya is a great success, what could go wrong. obviously it did go wrong. but if the administration from the top down isn't processing reality, this is the kind of tragedy you. bill: you are pinpointing the ideology. so this was their ment

in an independence that he is lagging ten points behind where bill clinton was. he is in terrible political say and for reasons i will review here shortly he is going to get worse before it gets better. i personally believe that 44 percent is a ceiling, not a floor. that is, inflated. my friend, great assistant to richard nixon, ronald reagan speech writer and adviser has long argued that there is no such thing as a bradley effect. the bradley effect is named for mayor tom bradley of los angeles when he ran against george deukmejian did not do as well in the final balloting is he had been doing in the polling. for years pundits have ascribe that to the brad the affected people are free to say they're not going to vote for african-american because they don't want to be up to the prejudice he they're talking anonymously to pollsters. and he has all the data, and i believe him, but i believe that even if the bradley effect was not true in 1982, latest here in 2012. there is a significant number of people, not for reasons related to race, but for reasons related to the nature of the democratic part

the trial and you remember the chief justice rehnquist presiding over the impeachment trial of bill clinton. but with the chief justice will is and how the chief justice is to be appointed in the federal circuit court of course the appeal if you become the chief judge by seniority so maybe what have come become the justice by seniority but no, president george washington thought otherwise and actually nominated a chief justice in that case and by separate commission, so that established the pattern some nominated to be the chief justice through the ranks. beyond that, how the court of reeds and what it conceives of as it's a distraction. many high courts around the world can give what we would call advisory opinions to the executive branch of their government or the legislative branch can say that, you know, if we get such and such would it pass muster and we say yes or no and if the answer is no they go back and redo it and bring it back again and it works that way. our core to very early on established it wouldn't wish you advisory opinions that there had to be an actual case or controver

. leaving the heavy lifting yet again today to former president bill clinton in new hampshire, who made the case this is a choice about the next four years. >> the economy is not fixed. i am telling you, nobody can fix this much damage in four years. but the president's economic plan is better in the short run, better in the long run. >> reporter: the president made the opposite case in 2009. vowing to get the economy fixed in three years or this would be in his words a one-term proposition. which is why senator marco rubio told fox he believes the president will be vulnerable tonight if romney focuses on this point. >> we can't afford four more years of barack obama. we can barely aforfour more months. if we have four more years of president obama we can't wait four years for the economy to start growing. >> reporter: that may be resonating as the race tightening again in latest nbc news, "wall street journal" poll. romney is trailing by three points, within the margin of error. 46% of registered voters approve of the president's handling of the economy. 51% disapprove. top aides say t

't to be. bill clinton butchers of beijing. he ends up forging a pretty strong relationship with china. so i think you have to discount a lot of the rhetoric and a lot of what you hear about, about priorities at this point. and probably conclude that when they do get in office that the harold macmillan words will probably drive things more than anything else. and that's defense, my dear boy, events. and then we get back to what you are saying. what will be their management style? what will be their ability a stunt history to respond to those events as they arise. spoonbill, what leadership is have you picked up? >> i think we have an incumbent president so presumably we know how he will be inclined to cover but i suppose one could argue that maybe not becoming, obama took over and over nine in a very unusual circumstance, huge majority in both houses, wind at his back but also apparently failed administration, huge financial crisis. he did various things we could second guess them or not, but rahm emanuel is as chief of staff, they're presumably because he understood how to manage congress

and bill clinton i am protested because of lies and coverups, where is the accountability in this administration, own up to the fact that we are at war with an evil force never be molified or satisfied until we're all dead. this is not about political offices or expanded geopolitical orders, this is about the survival of our civilization, if this administration can't or won't lead in the battle then step aside and let someone do it who won't lie to us and endanger our children. [applause] well, on friday, the office of the director of national intelligence issued a statement, attempting to put the matter to rest, going to washington is the chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge. why this document dump on a friday afternoon? >> well, you know, governor, as well as everyone else when you've got bad news, the place you put it is late on friday, what we had with the statement from director of national intelligence, a person who is a top intelligence officer in the united states government and i have the statement right here. and what i believe it does, seems to gi

obama and bill clinton at the convention have been trying to persuade the country to accept, which is inherited a really bad situation. we've made real progress. we have a way to go. well, today it looks like we made real progress. >> well, barack obama did not inherit bill clinton's economy. he inherited george bush's economy. i think we have forgotten that along the way. robert wolf and bob shrum great to have you both with us tonight. thanks so much. remember, answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter at ed show and on facebook. we want to know what you think. coming up a big win for the economy means mitt romney is losing his favorite talking point. democratic strategist chris covinas will tell us what 7.3% unemployment means for the romney campaign. stay with us. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or, "no comment." then there's esurance

to control spending, but i think you need a democrat, someone like bill clinton who can work with both parties. and that's not what we're getting right now. host: thank you very much, pat. our next call comes from david from minnesota on our line for independents. caller: yes, i think the ones that are at the top of the food chain are the lobbyists and the people that are buying our government out from underneath us, and i think we should have term limits and get rid of some of the people that have been in there for 100 years. and i think right now we've got the best government money can buy, and it's been bought by the lobbyists and the big corporations. there's also a saying, congress fiddled while the u.s. burned. and there's only 10% approval of congress right now. and these guys get too cozy with the lobbyists and the public should break up the logjam by voting all these old-timers out and getting rid of them. as far as the one-party system, hitler had a one-party system with the nazi party, and stalin had it with the communist party. i don't think that works out very well either.

with the mr. obama's capabilities, he is no bill clinton in that regard. hollywood will be prompter-free. >> we've seen obama say there are 57 states in the union, then he goes, some kind of -- takes over his face, and it looks like he is caught in the lights like a deer. when he does not hit the ball in the sweet spot, he starts to crumble a little bit. because, the facade is so important to him. lou: you think that -- who is more gaffe prone? who has do you think the greater likelihood of committing, well significant mistake. >> i am sure romney does not offer $10,000 bet. lou: i remember governor perry's face. >> obama will have to think how many books do i have to sell to make $10,000. lou: did you see the pictures, sitting with a big wad of cash in his hand, president is well-heeled. >> you think that mitt romney is a businessman, not a politician, really, at heart. lou: for crying out loud, you can tell me a lot of things but you cannot sell me, that this man mas been running for president now for years, and years, he is a former governor, he spent the last part of his life sp

the math, does the math work? bill clinton told us in charlotte, it's all about math. >> can he be nice, can he be specific, can he bring him down. what this guy needs is a sister soldier moment. he is in dire need of standing up to his base and saying no more tax cuts, we're not going to be going out and demeaning people. we're going to be a good country that bands together. thank you bill pretty show, we'll see you right after this. and lynn sweet. they were great, he says especially on together. yeah. they are. we'll bring them back. >> announcer: this is the "bill health matters to all of us. that's why lysol has started a mission for health. with new mom programs, lysol healthy habits initiatives in schools and disaster relief efforts. when you use lysol at home, you'll know you're a part of something bigger. for healthy tips and more, visit lysol.com/missionforhealth. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning, everybody! and welcome to the "full court press" on this tuesday, june 12. so good to see you today. i'm bill press. liberal and proud of it

the moderator and critecal moments of campaign is how you turn. >> bill clinton used wag the platform. >> how do you advice. not to put your finger. it is a question of emphasis. and al gore did something risky and it back fired. he walked off his podium and invaded governor bush's speech. he was prepared for al gore to approach him. al gore had done that in the prevous primary. how close do they have to be prepared. you have to be comfortable and prepared for everything . so part of it is, not only what you are saying but how you are reacting and looking and you try to practice those and anticipate. >> is there such a thing as being over prepared and you are not able to be spontanous. this is uncontrolled environment. i try to say you can't control the minutes, but have in your head what it is that you want to do and practice how you do different things and you don't have a script. >> it is three agencies of that are gone when i am there. congress and. what is the third one. >> maximizing dralm a. >> it is what we all remember . we listen for lines. and it a cap stone to what reagan won. it was

president was down nine points and died with bill clinton but october though clinton eventually won. former pollster questioning the assumption made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino an young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> they said the public poll are varying in the sampling and methodology so it's hard to make the case when they point in one direction, they're all wrong. but we are planning for a close race as we always have. >> another democratic strategist offered this assessment. >> this isn't over. it can move back and forth three and four times between now and november 6. if i'm romney you try to create that momentum. he saw a sign to do it. >> of the eight presidential races in the past ten where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, the average was 5%. in some cases a debate moved the needle. bret? >> bret: thanks. today, missouri republican senate candidate todd akin confirmed he was arrested in pro-life demonstration 25 years ago and he is defending a comment that the democratic incom

in the middle of an election campaign. bill clinton was comparing beijing to baghdad. this was at the time when china was moving from baghdad to paris. [laughter] maybe i am overstating the case, but that is what is happening. this was a dramatic shift in china and the u.s. government paid absolutely no attention to it. it had no impact on the policies of the clinton the administration when it took office. since i was the american ambassador, this confronted me with a problem of american government and had one view of china but china was already moving in a different direction and that created some contradictions in trying to carry out my instructions. this time, you have some echoes of that. clearly the bo xilai affair has shown that the political system is not that different for others. leaders have their own ambitions. some succeed and some come crashing down, as in the case of bo xilai. so we should not assume political jockeying is not taking place and this could explain why the announcement of the party congress was delayed. no longer do you have an all- powerful leader who can resolve di

to be reelected. do you think, steve, people believe the bill clinton argument that nobody, no president, could have actually solved this in four years? >> yeah, i do think that had some effect. there is no question that president obama came out of the conventions with a little bit of momentum. you talk, it is not only showing up in the public polling that we're talking about here today but talk to republican pollsters polling on senate and house races and they will talk about what they call the clinton bump. they have seen it across polling in various parts of the country that voters who are asked a question is the country on the right track, is the country on the wrong track, which most pollsters believe the single best determiner ho will win in november, there was a jump in the right track number, even if they don't specifically agree with how the president is handling the economy, on the general question whether we're on the right track, they think we are, because you think in part democrats successfully pressed this message that nobody could have done better than president obama's done. gr

. president obama had two appointees. george w. bush had two appointees. bill clinton had two. but there could be a bunch in a hurry. justice ginsburg is the most likely to leave. and if president obama wins, that wouldn't change the balance of five republicans and four democrats. but if the five-to-four balance shifts, you could see dramatic dramatic changes in the court. it all depends on who >> do you simply assume president obama would name someone like sonja sot ma yor or clarence thomas for that matter? can you just assume those would be the possibilit probabilities if you will? >> that is precisely what i would assume. you know, there's a mythology about the court that presidents often areurprised by how their justices turn out. but you know, that is very much the exception rather than the rule. if you look at the justices currently on the court right now, every single one of them has turned out more or less as re there are individual cases, there are surprises. i certainly was surpred by roberts' vote in the affordable care act case. hatlarge presidents w you e is what you get. iden yo

their votes. they're speaking out in a new ad for the romney/ryan ticket. shot clock. >> i voted for bill clinton twice. i voted for clinton. >> i voted for clinton. >> al gore. >> i voted for al gore. >> al gore. >> i voted for barack obama. >> i voted for barack obama. >> barack obama in 2008. >> i had huge hopes. but you know what, i got burned in 2008. >> the trillions and trillions of dollars of deficits. >> this time. >> this year. >> i've changed. >> i'm changing my vote. >> i changed my mind. >> to mitt romney and paul ryan. >> to romney and ryan. >> to mitt romney and paul ryan. they have plans and ideas that i believe will work. >> greta: joining us our political panel, rick klein, michael crawley, and justin sink. rick? >> find me a voter for voted for mccain four years ago and now says obama. it's a small segment of the population. this is the kind of message. it's an invitation to the former obama voters, the one-time obama voters who may be supporting him right now, on the fence right now, to say join us on the other side, you don't have to hate the guy, that he's the wrong

that bill clinton made rather effectively in his speech to the democratic convention. they argue that they devote savings to reforming medicare, not funding new entitlements. that is an important difference. both parties agree that controls are needed on medicare spending. but they disagree about the best path for. this claim by the republicans, i give it to pinocchios. obama will claim that are ryan's plan for medicare will for seniors to pay $6,400 more a year to make up for cuts in the program. this is an old democratic attack that has been around for a while. the problem is it is based on an earlier version of ryan's plan. that is another thing i have given two pinocchios. people should always be aware of dire predictions far off in the future. the $6,400 figure refers to an analysis of cbo estimates of a different, less generous ryan plan that goes to the year 2022. they make no estimates of the new version, except to say that beneficiaries might face higher costs. the plan was changed in other ways too. it changed the option of traditional medicare. it also decided to set t

to be there and are eager to make their case. bill clinton was like that. ronald reagan was like that. these two are not like that. for them, this is more, please do not let me do anything wrong, than, what can i do right? as was discussed earlier, he needs a dramatic moment to shift the momentum. if he is intimidated by the experience or feeling boxed in, he is less likely to do that. for obama, it is more a question for maintaining his lead. he does not want to do anything right now that reverses the trajectory he is on. i would expect he is a literate -- a little timid as well. >> if you look at past debates, one dealing with policy, the d, the with gerald forwar other is more style, where obama made a joke about his age. how much is policy and how much a style in these debates? >> i think probably my judgment would be a lot of the stylistic -- a lot of it is stylistic. it is the way they come across to the voters. it is not necessarily as much what they are saying as how they are saying it. every once in awhile, it is itchly more of a case of glti avoidance. to do with lot with their handler

mind. the comparison is to bill clinton who had a democratic house and senate when he first came in. he tried to pass national health care and america responded by voting in a republican congress. that was the republican revolution of 1994 and we saw and about face with bill clinton. the american people will not approve of his policy and that is when bill clinton became a dlc democrats and signed pretty much everything that the congress sent to him. that is the congress the democrats are bragging about. obama has to go back to the clinton era. it was when the republican congress came in in january of 1995 and past welfare reform and all sorts of new and fantastic criminal law provisions. there was a tax cut slipped in. that was the republican congress driving the bus. host: this is from twitter by aamom. guest: the idea that what people do not know about obama it is racist is a preposterous. where was all this love for blacks and high public positions when clarence thomas was nominated to the supreme court? how about 1 condoleezza rice was the first black female secretary of state? demo

been because everybody has bill clinton in their mind that the democrat, president obama, will do better in the town hall relating and empathizing and showing he connects to people. i'm not so sure about this president. >> well, i'm not so sure, although both of them will be -- i think the strongest mitt romney has been in my experience as a presidential candidate on the debate the other night was the events he did in both cycles last campaign in 2008 and this one, his so-called ask mitt anything events where he did take questions from people. he showed humor and the kind of fluidness and personality that he showed in the depate ba in those events and people that think this format clearly favors the president i don't think are right. >> but you know, one advantage that mitt romney won't have, barack obama will not be unprepared for the second debate the way he was for the first one. he's a competitive guy, we know he wants to win this election, he's smart. i have to believe he is going to focus and prepare in a way he did not the first time around. >> and frankly a low bar for the

a headline, "blame obama's lousy debate on john kerry. bring bill clinton as his debate coach." that's one person's opinion of the matter. nevertheless, no chance in that happening, but we know from what david axelrod has said and others, there will likely be a strategy change for the president in the next debate. >> no one knows why the president didn't do as well. i think that you're going to see a more focused president obama. actually, a more focused obama campaign team on preparation. this is a conversation we had about mitt romney and a lot of things he said shouldn't have been too surprising given all the republican debates we had seen over the past year or so. and president obama was caught flat-footed, his campaign was flat-footed. we'll see if the adjustments they end up making as david axelrod promised. >> what's the early word on the vice presidential debates? you have democrats off the record worried knowing that biden could give a make moment or a break moment. >> it's most watched tv. it's important to note that paul ryan has never been on this stage before. joe biden, given

. >> brian: they are going with the one statement that bill clinton it was so bad when he took over, even i couldn't turn the economy around in four years. >> when you talk to economists, never before has there been so much stimulus, particularly monetary system will, fed printing money. the only why that is happening, i wish bill clinton would use his common sense. the fiscal side of the coin, the side controlled by the white house. that side is scaring businesses. when you threaten them with taxes, you threaten them with more spending, with obamacare, they ratchet back and they don't hire people. >> eric: when they don't hire maybe they don't give people raises. that is part of the reason. its consumer driven economy? >> partially, yes. you have to talk to business people about it. they react non-political. they are not tea party activists. they are moderately conservative. they are scared about the future because they are scared about what is coming out of washington. they are not scared because of tax cuts but they are scared because regulation is going to increase and obamacare and som

think bill clinton really nailed it at the convention. he said -- i think you do have a point, the economy is not in good shape. the middle voters, which are the voters -- who are the voters that mitt romney needs to speak to, what they're hearing is that we want to reduce taxes on the rich and deregulate again. that's what got us into trouble. you know, if they think that we are just going to repeat the things that brought us the terrible problems we had in 2007 and 2008, that's not going to resonate. i don't think that is his message and that's what's coming across. they need to focus on that and not whose poll is right. >> do you think that's the product of some tactical errors or the product of a broader shift in the balance of power within the coalition that is the republican party? >> i think it is part of the balance of power. there's a certain -- ats the extreme, there's a certain core that just wants to unseat this incumbent no matter what and they don't understand that you need to provide an alternative. people are not going to vote against somebody. they've been bur

the tax rates in the united states, where they were during the bill clinton administration in '90s when the economy was doing just fine. what's wrong with that argument? >> nothing. but -- you need to do -- if you are going go down that path you have do that over time. can't do that cold turkey. i mean, that's just too much of a hit for our after-tax income. particularly in the context of what is still a very weak economy. if you want to go down that path, again, i don't think we need to, between don't need to see tax rates rise that much. if you want to go down that path, only way to make logical sense of that is phase that in over time so people can digest that and wouldn't push us back into a recession. i don't think we need go down that path. we need tax revenue, we need to see additional tax revenues generated. we don't need to see that much general rayed. that would be counter-produce. >> what if they let the taxes lapse for the wealthiest americans which is what president obama wanted those families making more than $250,000 a year, individuals making more than $200,000 a year, w

president was down nine points in mid-september and was tied with bill clinton by the end of october. the clinton eventually won. former clinton pollster is questioning the assumptions being made in today's polls. >> these polls are assuming that you have the same high level of african-american, latino and young people vote in 2012 that you had in 2008. >> obama campaign senior advisor david axelrod said they widely vary so when they all pointed in one direction, they are all wrong. but we are planning for a close race as we always have. another democratic strategist offered this assessment. >> the race isn't over. this can move back three or four times between now and november 6th. >> romney you try to create that momentum. >> of the eight presidential races where the leads were cut or flipped by the opponent, average of comebacks was roughly 35% and in some cases it was the debate that moved the needle. >> gregg: as a reminder we are daig days away from that first presidential debate. we'll have live coverage of the event hosted by megyn kelly and bret baier. that is coming up righ

congressman. and pat caddell, former pollster for jimmy carter. and doug schoen former pollster for bill clinton. doug, the numbers you saw on the screen, since the conventions, the president has gained four and romney has lost two, a swing of six points. >> that is where the race is. there are some polls in the swing states showing outsize leaps for obama the ink they are over sampling democrats and the mainstream media is away from what the race is. that is, a close contest. the president is about 48 or 49 percent approval and vote share. the governor's campaign has lost support. he is down around 43 percent. the 47 percent combined with the drift in the campaign has reduced his vote share, but it is still a a race, and the debate will be critical. >>gregg: this poll shows president obama at 49 and 44 and that can chain instantly. some of the media have written governor romney's obituary, this is premature. >> the media polls, the mainstream media uses the state polls like the new form of negative advertising. other negative campaigning against romney. the news organizations that are b

a debate with then-candidate bill clinton. the gesture gave voters the impression that he was impatient and uninterested. during the 2000 presidential debates, al gore got up in governor george w. bush's grill. look. [laughter] just a classic moment where he was invading his personal space a little, and, boy, did he take some flak. mr. bush gave him a nod and kept talking. in one of the more unusual moments during the vice presidential debates in '92 between republican dan quayle, democrat al gore and the third party running mate of ross perot who was admiral james stockdale, there was this moment. >> admiral stockdale, your opening statement, please, sir. >> who am i? [laughter] why am i here? [laughter] [applause] megyn: he was totally charming and likable but also got a lot of criticism for his performance in that debate, and, you know, his family later came out and said they thought it was unfortunate because they thought it changed his legacy, and he was a very honorable man. in any event, we are all watching wednesday night. they say this is going to be the most important debate b

to bill clinton as her fifth son. and -- now he works with -- with president george w. bush as well. and the time i was interviewing president bush is when i was doing a series of pieces on former presidents and constitution. in that same set of interviews, i interviewed president ford. the last time i saw him. and he said you know, cokie, i just don't understand what's going on in washington. after his many years in the house of representatives. when i was minority leader of the house, and your father, my father, hail boggs was majority leader of the house, he said when we were minority and majority leader, we would get in a cab together and go down to the press club or someplace and say what are we going to argue about? and he would say, that is a legitimate debate. we genuinely disagreed about means to an end. and it was part zing. for heaven's sakes, we were the leaders of our parties. then we got in the cab and be best friends and go back to the hill and be able to be civil with each other, have a drink together and, you know, be very good friends. they were such good friends t

is the question i would like, mitt romney, how would you -- if bill clinton couldn't have turned this economy around in four years, even he couldn't turn it around in four years what, could you have done to turn it around in four years? see if he comes back with specifics or if he comes back with rhetoric. can mitt romney comment on why he has offshore accounts? can mitt romney thoroughly and adequately explain the 47% comment which has been used for the other side in ads and can he expand on his math on the economy? if he can do that in a way in which we can all understand without generality, i think he could have momentum. if not, then president obama -- >> steve: they've been working on the lines, first in vermont and now out in colorado as well. it's interesting, though, to hear how people on the left and the white house have been down playing the president's performance. >> brian: you think so? >> steve: just a little bit. remember over the last four, five years, we've been told barak obama brack, one of the whyest political speakers of all time, now we're expected to believe he's going

years isn't enough per bill clinton. what they know is things have not gotten better for them personally. >> that is exactly right. >> that is exactly what wednesday night will be all about. nicely put. tomorrow on "starting point" we take a look at -- who are we talking to? len berman is going to talk to us. carrie ellis is going to celebrate the 25th anniversary of "the princess bride." "cnn newsroom" with carol costello starts right now. >> stories we're watching now in the "newsroom." presidential debapt barn burner, zinger fest, game changer. the heat is on. >>> secret keeper. serial cheater. no remorse, no regret. arnold schwarzenegger opens up about his secret affairs and that illegitimate child. >> i'm going to put this away. >> how can you put it away? you have a child? >> i know. that's just the way i operate. >> now he says he wants maria back. >>> break out the cloth diapers and gigantic safety pins. a diapers shortage is looming. a pampers alert this morning. a pampers alert this morning. "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning. happy mo

of israel on an issue frankly was not relevant, which was settlements. and i don't think, unlike bill clinton, and george w. bush, that this president has the kind of emotional sensitivity that think is required to create some measure of partnership with the israelis even though netanyahu is a difficult guy. on syria, look, let's be clear. we're coming off the two longest wars in american history. the last thing we need is another military adventure that isn't thought through very clearly. on iran, no matter who is president we have got big trouble coming. israelis rightly need to figure out a way to prevent iran from enriching uranium. the question is, whether or not you can do that short of war? and right now, neither barack obama nor mitt romney, nor benjamin netanyahu have answers to that. so --. >> brought us through some very important regions in the middle east and it is such a big topic, i would like to drill down and return to one of the things you pointed out. the difference between being smart and stupid when it comes to foreign policy let's talk about priorities especially

higher crime levels. but this is how they set it up. you set it up to a point where bill clinton said, no one could fix i. but i think if there was a republican in office, we would hear this is a crisis, unemployment over 8%, and if you take the nine million people who dropped out of the job market since inauguration day, it'd be closer to 12%. the fact that we're not seeing this is disingenuous and a disservice to the general public. >> yeah, it's really bad, and partly it's the policies. we're doing a lot of things similar to what happened in japan, and there's a joke that used to go around japan, what's the difference between japan and taiwan, at least one company goes bust in taiwan every day, and in japan that wasn't happening -- alisyn: because of stimulus? >> no, they were propping up bad companies. alisyn: bailouts. >> in this country we've got banks that are going bust not because of bad account, we've got crazy accounting policies where i'm as tall as charles. [laughter] i'd like to be, but i'm not. and also we've got bailouts of companies that didn't need bailing out, they

. steve harrigan live in miami. steve, thanks. jenna: whether it is bill clinton wagging that finger. you can't really do it like him. he has that down. gregg: he has that patented. jenna: or presidential candidate bob dole referring himself this the third person, presidential debates are full of unexpected and quite memorable moments. coming up we'll look at what most voters are likely to take away from tonight's debate. >>> plus a look at who may be responsible for the deadly attack on our consulate in benghazi. why the administration has yet to hunt down any of the top suspects. ally bank. why they're always there to talk. i love you, james. don't you love me? i'm a robot. i know. i know you're a robot! but there's more in you than just circuits and wires! uhhh. (cries) a machine can't give you what a person can. that's why ally has knowledgeable people there for you, night and day. ally bank. your money needs an ally. jenna: well, who is behind the murder of four americans in benghazi including our ambassador to libya? as that question continues to plague this administration and the s

so it is fair, so that incomes over $250,000 will go back to the rate when bill clinton was president, that created the biggest surplus in history. last night romney ruled out raising a dollar of taxes on anybody, closing out the loophole that is $4 billion in corporate welfare, refused to acknowledge the loophole that gives tax breaks to corporations that ship jobs overseas, and when he was asked what he would do to cut the deficit, said he would eliminate funding for public television. that was his answer. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it is about time. we did not know that big bird was driving the federal deficit, but that is what we heard last night. how about that? elmo, too? look, the fact is governor romney's numbers do not add up. i had to spend time last night trying to pin it down. the only way to pay for $5 trillion in the tax cuts and $2 trillion in the defense spending that the military says it does not need is by asking the middle-class to pay more. i refuse to do that. i refuse to ask middle-class families to give up their deductions for

of self-reliance -- self-deport, self-abort. here is bill clinton at the democratic convention playing saxamaphone. it was either a arithmetic or facts. i was not sure what to put, but to me, -- it is kind of pathetic. democrats were all waiting for somebody to come up and spell out these things clearly, which, apparently, it took bill clinton to come out and say something that democrats felt excited and a rally of about. there might be a communication problem in the white house. here is chris christie speaking at the rnc. [laughter] mitt is down there saying, "don't forget to mention my name, chris." here is a guy running around the republican convention. gops not easy being a convention minority seat filler ." [laughter] clicker. [laughter] nothing to say there. i think the ladies know what i'm talking about. vp choice paul ryan appeals to seniors. scary eddie munster guy. \ here is mitt romney's money. [laughter] chillin'. [laughter] i know a guy that does this fit twitter account called mexican mitt romney -- fake twitter account called mexican mitt romney. he is a big smash on twi

place than we currently are? was bill clinton right during the democratic national convention when he said no one, no president, could have had this type of recovery and dealt with it, republican or democrat. >>guest: the problem with that line that this is the best we can do, always played the clips, that was president obama, and vice president biden and so many of the economists who told us four years ago we are going to get out of this mess and we will have a very robust recovery. i just shows the clip and president obama said he would be a one-termer if things are not turned around. have we turned things around? it is dicey. if you look at what happened this week with the g.d.p. numbers that came out, very weak, 1.3 percent growth. that is a third of where we should be. we have $5 trillion in debt. the deficit has not been cut in half. instead, it has actually doubled. when president came in it was $500 billion and now it is $1 trillion. the theme of the re-election campaign could be promises made, promises broken. >> the argument is this recession is different than any we have se

forei policy is a shames, would that right wor >> there is no obama foreign policy. >> bill: all right, allight. whatever they'reeporting it to be, and poor hillary clinton is running around to b getting anhing under control. we havtohink abo that.discussio. next up, factor exclusive. we'll talk tohe man who pr foris republican primary debates, right b >> bill: impact segment, president obama nevada, mi romney in colorado. both preppin f the big debate morr night. remember when newt gingrich clked the governo in the south carolina debate last spring, romney came back strong in florida. the man whohelped prepare t deb, brett o'donnell joins us now. youeally know this turf because you worked for john mccain when he r ain barak a in 2008 and n in the primary season,ou worked for tt romney. let's assess the governor's weas debater first. strengths? >> wl, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good orator, hecan deliver a speech. he's very good when he's on messand on offense. as you saw in the debates in flora ag when heot g offense, the governor was very effective. when h

clinton in 1996. that's a big federal law they're going to be looking at. they may -- >> bill: tell me what it says. >> the defense of marriage act in 1996 said only -- you can't only have marriage between a man and woman. not just marriage, but the legal benefits that come with marriage, when you die. >> bill: who wants to overturn that? >> lot of people do, but at least five cases are now in front of the supreme court by different plaintiffs saying, look, i was in a marriage, i was? a marriage. it was sanctified by the state. >> bill: are they all gay people? >> all gay people. right. now you feds, you can't take away my rights. >> bill: so all gay people, five different cases. >> five in front of the supreme court. 19 pend not guilty federal court. >> arthel: so the supreme court pick -- >> bill: so the supreme court picked one? >> they haven't picked any. >> bill: will they pick one? >> yes. >> bill: just one? >> no. my thinking is they'll president-elect obama put all of them together. the big soup can? >> right. >> bill: then guilfoyle, they'll deliberate on whether doma is const

, would that be a right word? >> there is no obama foreign policy. >> bill: all right, all right. whatever they're reporting it to be, and poor hillary clinton is running around and doesn't seem to be getting anything under control. we have to think about that. gentlemen, very interesting discussion. next up, factor exclusive. we'll talk to the man who prepped mitt romney for his republican primary debates, right b >> bill: impact segment, president obama in nevada, mitt romney in colorado. both prepping for the big debate tomorrow night. remember when newt gingrich clocked the governor in the south carolina debate last spring, romney came back strong in florida. the man who helped prepare the governor for those debates, brett o'dnell joins us now. you really know this turf because you worked for john mccain when he ran against barak obama in 2008 and now in the primary season, you worked for mitt romney. let's assess the governor's strengths and weaknesses as a debater first. strengths? >> well, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good orator, he can deliver a speech. he

debate. even clinton wasn't as good as he was in other forums. the president who is a good debater but not a great debater, it's a lot of pressure on him, too. bill: usually they write about the incumbents being insulated by yes people and do not say no to the president. is that true and how does that affect a person? >> they are not used to being pushed around. a critical player on our team is the man who runs fox news. roger ails came in. he was a political strategist before he retired. and he got in the president's face. he calmed him down and told him what he had to do. the first debate we had a rally after the event. reagan needed a crowd to ref him up. we had a big rally before he was revved up and he did an effective job. bill: reagan called ails coach during those times. you work with jack kemp and huckabee. >> he was an extraordinarily talented guy and one of the great thinkers of our party. mike huckabee was perfect. he had great experience on radio. he understood that the quote -- he didn't need much help, but he was very substantive. an extraordinarily talent. the debat

ingraham said i think the press was largely unfair to hillary clinton against obama and john mccain against obama and tipped the election in obama's favor. not me who thinks it, the pretty itself looking at itself maybe we haven't been the fairest. bill: juan you're squinting when she is talking there. >> giving me a side eye? >> i think she's on target when she says if you ask reporters, are they more likely to be democrats or republicans, they're more likely to be democrats and liberals not any question. the other side of this if you ask owners, ask editors they're more likely to be republican. i think the american people are smart enough to reach conclusions for themselves. i don't think anybody is selling them a bill of goods and bunch of dummies who swallow it whole cloth. i think people are critical consumers of news media, when you ask them about defending obama and attacking romney, that's why you get results in fox poll. when you ask him about fairness is it fair that's when you get the different set of results, you know what, people are getting in some sense what they deserve when

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